Thursday, July 19, 2007

To Day Job or Not to Day Job?

How Limiting is the Inevitable?

DENNIS: "I'm thinking that I'm going to quit my day job."
ME: "Yeah - why?"
DENNIS: "Before I came to Chicago, I found myself working all day and improvising at night. I'm here now and I'm working all day and improvising at night. I'm going to go the temp route to open up my schedule."
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Paul was a very talented actor/improviser who was involved in the early days of WNEP Theater. He was married but his wife was forgiving of the huge amounts of time he spent rehearsing and performing in the backs of bars and tiny storefront theaters. When his wife got pregnant with twins, enough became enough and he quit the scene stating that unless it paid, he couldn't perform anymore.

He doesn't perform anymore.
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Of the many, many actors, writers, and directors I know, only a handful have health insurance and any sense of financial security beyond the hand-to-mouth, check-to-check existence. That handful have day jobs that, in return for the benefits of health insurance and financial security, take between 40 - 60 hours a week to accomplish.

Some bitch about this. Others make due and perform when they can.
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Tony posts a nice article about his personal struggle with making money vs. making art ad the disparity between the two:

I wear many hats: husband, father, scenic/lighting/sound designer, director, writer, actor--though there are two that come into conflict the most often. Money vs. the Artist. Working freelance in theatre at the same time as running a small company increasingly felt like a Jekyll and Hyde puppet show.

When my wife became pregnant with our first child, I stopped freelancing and took a full time salaried (non-theatre) job. I have not been happier as an artist. I don't do as many shows as I once did. (25-30 a year was taking its toll.) However, I can be much more selective in the shows I take on and I can see my kid.

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For the first time in 41 years (and I've been working for my own money and performing for 28 of that) I have a cubicle job. The only 'steady' gig (read: insurance, annual salary worth mentioning, sense of financial security and a pension of sorts) I've had in my life was the seven year stint as a Chicago Public School Seventh/Eighth Grade Music Teacher and I quit that for idealistic reasons.*

*In a nutshell, I had become the kind of teacher so impressed with his popularity among his students and his righteous battles with the Board of Ed that actually teaching kids became secondary to reputation. I decided I'd rather not be a teacher than be a bad one.

As I look back on my artistic successes and failures, it is pretty easy to see that not one show I've worked in, worked on, written, directed, or produced was hindered by any day job that I had at the time. In fact, to the contrary, each job I've had (bookstore, tobacco shop, horse ranch, video store manager, pizza delivery, overnight janitor, roofing, storm window installation, minister, facilities manager at a massage school, et al) has given me knowledge and skills that I would have never had had I simply been a theater cat full time. These gigs provided perspective on the world that being insulated by the sometimes rosey, sometimes tawdry, world of the empty space would have gone missing.

Sure, the dream is to spend every waking hour engaged in artistic activity, constantly creating new and exciting art and being paid well enough to survive to do it. The thing to consider when dreaming that dream is the pragmatic truth that the artistic engine needs grist for the mill, ideas and material and skills outside the idyllic lifestyle of a full time artist - why do you think Hollywood directors often put their actors through extensive boot camps to train them for certain films?

Don - you fucking hypocrite. If someone offered you the opportunity to be a full time artist and pay you a living wage to do it, you'd take it in a New York minute.

It's true. Who, realistically, wouldn't? I can say that at 41 I have some life experience and I have something to say with my art. If the offer you suggest had been made when I was 20, I would've snapped it up but would've suffered for the choice - when I was 20 I was a Born Again Christian doing Equity tours of old Broadway musicals - if that had been my path there would be no Soiree DADAs, no Armageddon Radio Hour, no Postmortem, no My Grandma's a Fat Whore in Jersey.

I'm certainly not advocating the 'starving artist' model, but Sting was a better songwriter before he got comfortable, wasn't he? Perhaps the limitations of a day job (and the financial need for one) is a necessary component for art to have a sense of urgency, a sense of danger. Perhaps, as Apollo Creed advises Rocky in Rocky III, you gotta be hungry - have that 'Eye of the Tiger' - in order to truly be a force in the world.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ah yes Don, today you have hit on a subject that is very near and dear to my heart: How to balance pursuing performing with paying rent/eating/taking care of family/paying for health care etc. Try telling the landlord when he/she gets all up in your face and says: “Hey man, the rents due” that you don’t have it because you were out, in a bar, playing games. No question: Out you go.

Then add a significant other (which I have), a child (which I have), and your own wants for things (which we all have), and this just adds to the stress of balancing it all. The tricky part comes in trying to keep the peace with all the interested parties in that equation: Keeping yourself satisfied with the “work” that you do in the theater with the limited time you may have, keeping the day job employer content with your work (again with limited time and often times energy), and most important (for me anyways) is keeping the home life (my wife and child) as happy and secure (I grew up in what could be called a difficult home) as possible. It’s not easy, but I manage somehow, even if that means writing a scene at 5 in the am or woodsheddin’ in the car on my way to work. It just happens. Sure I have had to scale back my improv endeavors (as Tony did in your example), but it gets done. Plus, my daughter (who is nearly 2) gives me plenty of material and practice for theater, and I would not change that for the world. I am 37 and have been performing for the last 4 years, and it has worked so far.

What I can’t tolerate is when I work on a project and one or two members is not pulling their weight. Or the director dare challenge my commitment to the project. And I know many times that they are the starving artist type with not nearly as much as their plate as I (or others) have on mine. Just because someone is perceived as a “sell-out” in taking a day job, being married, and having a child, don’t ever think for one second (as a director or as a cast member) that they are any less committed to the project then other non-sell-out members. And actually, know that they will probably be even more committed to the project as this is probably all they have going on in the theater/improv world.

That’s my 50 cents (2 cents plus inflation).

Paul N

Mr. Snrub said...

two words: Bob Newhart

GreyZelda said...

I have always worked better with those who are able to find the balance between their dayjobs and their artistic commitments ... it shows a work ethic that's sometimes missing in others and a heightened sense of focus because, as you said, there's a sense of urgency.

It also has allowed me to keep GreyZelda afloat and keep me and mine in a home where we're happy and not worrying about how we're going to pay the rent. Once people can figure out the balance, it all works out.

Have I lost a lot of jobs ultimately because they know I'm a theatre person and have another company that I'm focused on? Sure. But that doesn't stop me from going and finding another one because, if I want to live in Chicago, I need to pay the rent and bills and that l'il day job is great at providing ...

And! It's amazing the people I've met through the "day job" ... one of my positions introduced me to several actors, our previous business director, our musical director and tons of potential audience members.

They can be draining, but if you want to make the art enough, you create room in your brain and life to make that happen - you get a second wind, especially if the art and the process are appealing enough ... you just have to know what your priorities are... yeah, I don't go on many vacations and, when I'm doing shows, I don't do much for "me", but ... that's the way I want it and that's what I'm willing to sacrifice for art. There are those who work a lot harder than us and we're really lucky that we have a fresh breath of creative air to go to after work instead of our boob tubes and golfing excursions.

And, if your day job is sucking your will to live and your desire to create art, follow my advice and say "Fuck it", quit (even if you don't have another job), and find a new job. There are a lot of them out there. Art wins in the end and you have to find the job during the day that is able to support you mentally and monetarily. You're the one letting these things be done to you. If you don't like it, change it. I've gone from door-to-door sales and waitressing to an office job where my boss leaves me alone and I get to leave at 4:30pm ... if I can get one of these things being the cranky, theatre-obsessed, kooky type, I know anyone can. Just leave everything at the door when you leave at the end of the day and, vice versa, try to keep quiet about the theatre stuff while at work. I've learned ... they honestly don't care nor do they want to hear it.

(And I'm able to type all of this during my dayjob!!!!!! Yay!!!!!)

RZ

Joe Janes said...

"Art wins in the end and you have to find the job during the day that is able to support you mentally and monetarily. You're the one letting these things be done to you. If you don't like it, change it."

Huzzah, Rebecca! Huz-zah!

Tony said...

I'll admit, I find it bizarre how it works out- but the language I use regarding the theatre seems to always be very

much the same. When searching for a day job, I'm always asked, "so, you do theatre? Will that interfere with your

work here?" And I always reply, "It never has."

And when I'm out doing the "theatre thing" (such as, last night, hosting 40+ guests at a kick-ass Theatre Momentum show), I'm asked, "So, do you do this full time?" with a look of envy on the face of the asker. And I tell them no, I wish. I have a boring day job that pays the bills. But this, theatre, feeds the soul.
And they always get it, and they always wish they could do it. While they realize I must be doing the equivalent of working two full-time jobs (and often enough, yeah, that's the case), they can see that it's really worth it, and that it provides a balance that, oft-times, their own lives lack. It's that push, that urge that everyone feels, to create, even in some small way. And as artists, we feel that push more than most people feel the push to move forward in their day-job existence.

I've wondered more times than not whether or not I'd be better off just not working a day job at all, focusing fully on my theatrical career. The past several months were an interesting test. Being without a day job, but having a severance package to survive on gave me an interesting glimpse into me as an independent theatrical individual.

And while I did get a lot of stuff done, getting Theatre Momentum into motion, I also was considerably more lazy than I should've been. I spent weeks on end doing nothing productive whatsoever, even though, when I was working full-time, I was always on the go, constantly working, because there was no time to be lazy. Weird, that. I can work like a dog when time is tight, but without that deadline, nada. Maybe that's something having a day job is good for.

That and paying for things, like rent and coaches fees, especially in the start-up stages of a company.

Dennis Frymire said...

Well, for my part, it's not about freeing myself up for more projects, it's freeing myself up for different projects, as in getting an agent, doing commercial work, film stuff, etc. It is my hope that temping and not having the permanent day job will free me up artistically. Yes, having a day job gives you grist for the mill. But I've been getting the same grist for the past year, and it's getting stale. Besides, I'm a bit of a vagabond and enjoy jumping around from place to place.

And I'm going to go ahead and post this now before the Sup walks by.

Craig said...

Whenever I'm confronted by this issue, I ask myself the same question: "Do I wanna be "X" for the rest of my life...or do I want to be an actor for the rest of my life?" The latter always wins and something always comes up.

Malachy Walsh said...

I don't make a distinction between my job as a writer of advertising and a writer of other things.

I'm a writer.

That is, I make a living on words.

I'd love to make a living writing the words that I want to write, but that's not always the case.

Sometimes the paying gigs subsidize the non-paying gigs. But then the non-paying gigs give me a breather from some of the less interesting paying gigs.

We're in a society that puts way to much weight behind the idea that it's only real or worthwhile if soemone pays you for it. And then defines you that way. It's foolish and so I just disregard it.

Tony said...

I thought I posted this earlier, but the computer's been acting weird today, so sorry if this double posts.

For me it was never a question of "Do I wanna be "X" for the rest of my life...or do I want to be an actor for the rest of my life?" (Though I design and direct far more than I act nowadays.)

It was a question of, do I want to do crappy shows for a living.

Reality is--there is just as much bad theatre as good, and more often than not, that's what pays better. When I was freelancing I had to take a lot of shows I wouldn't do now that I don't need the money. If I was offered a gig lighting a show that paid $500 for a couple days work (or $100 for a few hours) I had to do it, even if it was an awful script with a bad director. I also td'd quite a bit. I don't know it there's a more thankless job in theatre than td'ing.

It made me jaded and start to hate theatre, as my passion slowly turned into another crappy day job.

I do far less shows now, but I only do ones I'm passionate about. For me, it makes me a happier, and actually a better artist.

Dianna said...

I feel like I fall into a special category here...
I do have a GREAT day-job. I'm very lucky to have it and get paid the wage I do - not only do I get great benefits but I also get PARTNER benefits for Sara as well. Do I love my job? no. But, I also don't hate it. There is an equal balance of things I like and things I don't like. Being able to post on someone's blog during the work-day is defintely a plus. :)
(I work full-time as an admin in a hotel's sales office)
And as someone who also works part-time in house managment, I see parts of my theatre life in my day to day work, and I also utilize a lot of my office skills in my theatre job(s) too. (Esp. when producing for SRT).
My part-time gig is at Blue Man, and I have to say, i love working there. They pay well and they treat their employees great - also, its like house managing a rock concert every night - not bad!
If something full time opened up there, I would snatch it up in a second. But if it didn't, my existence right now is very fulfilling.
I don't make ALL of my money from theatre, but I make some. I don't love my dayjob, but the perks are pretty outstanding. I have time to do SRT things and STILL have time to spend quality time with Sara.

I think whatever works in each persons best interests and overall makes them happy is the best mix.

Who am I to say what works best for Don, Malachy or Tony?

In regards to your initial question Don - I don't forsee a time when I would not be doing theatre, regardless of whether I had a seperate day job or not. For me, the overall artistic fullfillment I get from Theatre (paid & unpaid) over rides any sense of stress over doing a few things at once.

Malachy Walsh said...

I like what Dianna is saying. Makes a lot of sense to me....

Dan said...

Don - This has been very much on my mind the last few days. This whole issue is tied to most of the stuff that's been coming up over the past few months - Equity/Non-Equity and the vaunted status of "professional performer;" the longevity/effectiveness of small start-up companies; commercial theatre vs. non-commerical theatre; etc.

I have to say, on balance, as much as my day job seems boring and inane, I'm not quitting any time soon. Aside from the benefits and the salary, they've been really supportive of my theatrical pursuits (letting me off for auditions, never calling me out when I call in "sick" during tech week, asking me how a show is going and seeming to care). What's more, I have to admit I've learned a lot of skills from my day job. I'm much more organized, more focused, and decisive. I interact with business-types all day, whereas three years ago I was intimidated by anyone in a tie, let alone a suit. I am an efficient email writer.

I've become much more confident - holding down a job for three years that I was worried I wasn't good enough for, having to interact with some relatively important (or at least self-important people), managing my money in such a way as to get myself out of debt and keep myself in clean underwear rather than drinking it all away.

And, like Tony says, as my performance opportunities grow, I'm able to be selective. I just turned down a paying gig in favor of a non-paying gig because the former would have been a huge mental/spiritual drain.

And I think I've become a better artist - I am having experiences and meeting types of people I never would have otherwise. By nature I tend to stick to the well-worn paths I've carved for myself, and that's death for an artist, as I'm sure you'll agree.

Granted, my jobs in retail before this relatively cushy university desk-job (which gives me leisure to blog and be paid for it, essentially) were not giving me that. But this one does.

What's more, the question I have to ask myself whenever I think about hanging it up is similar to the one people are supposed to ask when they think about going Equity: Am I in a position where I will be getting more/better work if I make this leap? In other words, what am I having to say "no" to currently that I would say "yes" were I to leave my job. What the hell else would I be doing right now? Realizing the answer ("Sitting and stewing about how I'm still bored- and broke") has not only kept me plugging away in the old cubicle, but it also has made me take better advantage of the classes, workshops, and creative endeavors available to me in the evenings and weekends - and I have the money to pay for them.

But I'm also laying some cash away against the day when making that leap may make more sense.

DAM* Writer said...

In some ways, I'm in the same position as Malachy; that is, I've been a self-employed freelance writer for a dozen years or so, and a playwright for a few years less.

And even though I'm happy to be a writer professionally, semi-professionally and by nature, it's still a tough balance. There are days when I'm on a roll with a play, and nothing bites more than having my creative mojo sucked out of me by the need to complete a client project on intellectual-property law (or some other such subject). Those are the days when I wish I was doing data entry.

And there are days when I have to tell a client, "No, I can't have that done for you by X deadline," because I need to go to a rehearsal -- and if I try to get the job done after a long rehearsal, my work will be for shit. And I can't afford to deliver shit to my clients. Especially when I'm cutting back on "their" hours, in order to take care of "my" playwriting.

But there are perks. I have a ton of flexibility, the writing in one arena often informs the writing done in the other, I can pay my bills and have health insurance, and I get to take my dogs to work (or rather, they take me, since the office is just on the other side of the kitchen).

I guess my point is, there's always give and take. Even rich people get depressed.

David Moore
www.davidalanmoore.wordpress.com

(Again, Blogger is offering the "Other" sign-on option, but not letting it work... even though it worked five minutes ago. Curse you, Blogspot!)

Craig said...

Most people that have both more talent and more drive than me fail to become professional performers.

Every time that I've been paid to do theater it has been a less enjoyable experience.

A third firm declaration of self-congratulations to convince myself that I don't ask, "what if . . .?"